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Re: Magazine Articles

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:37 pm
by Bully fanatic
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Re: Magazine Articles

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:45 am
by EvH
Hi everyone,
Phil 850 wrote:Interesting article for me as I am restoring a 172 :D

Interesting article for me too as I own a :yamaha TY 175 :D
Here is the next trials technique:
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Re: Magazine Articles

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:00 pm
by Kurt
Hi All,

Found this article while on tour in NZ.

Can anyone name a trials manufacturer who hasn't dabbled in an 'explorer' model?

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Re: Magazine Articles

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:25 pm
by David Lahey
That was pretty interesting Kurt. I've never seen a Beta Alp but have seen it's contemporary, a GasGas Pampera and even had the hots to buy a Pampera at the time.
I reckon it might be fun to remember the many various explorer/mountain bikes like the Beta Alp and GasGas Pampera.
I'll start with Yamaha's failed attempt at something similar. At least with the Yamaha it was an options kit for a TY250 and you could pick and choose which components you wanted to use. The photos are from a current listing on eBay. I've never seen one of these in the flesh, and looking at where the footpegs are located, I think I understand why. Has anyone ridden one of these with the footpegs there like that?

Re: Magazine Articles

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:08 am
by tat ty
David, I've had one of the footpeg relocation kits for quite a while now and finally went to fit it only a couple of weeks ago.

I ran in to an issue as the lower mounting point requires removal of the plastic blinding plug from the frame cross member to enable a tapped steel plug to be hammered in and then accept the lower bolt bracket.

My bike had typical crush damage at that location. Attempts to round this out weren't very successful so I retired to a quiet corner with a bottle of Coopers Vintage to assist solution development.

My current favoured approach is to hammer hardwood dowels in and then predrill and use "Bugle Screws".

When I get to it I'll report back.

In the last week or so a kit has appeared on EBay in the US. It is in individual pieces, typical when a bike is parted out, but the longer swing arm bolt was not there. It does have the longer brake pedal.

Alastair

Re: Magazine Articles

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:03 am
by Guy53
In 1975 we had a 10% discount from Yamaha Motor Canada if we bought 10 A ( 1974 in Canada ) model. I remember we could sell them for $937.00 tax included, so we made a lot off happy TY owners. One of them was not a '' real '' trial rider so he bought a complete kit: footrest, shifter, brake pedal and seat. I had the '' pleasure '' to get is bike on top of different hill more than one time. How can I say that without insulting anybody, it was… unpleasant, imagine riding a bike sitting in a bad position with the pegs misplace with poor traction sitting or standing. you have to remember that in those days shock and tire where not the best. It was, to me, worst than riding a Suzuki Savage 250 or a Kawasaki 250 trail even if it was lighter than the 2 of them. I always thought that it was a kit ordered by Yamaha USA sold in Canada to get rid of the overstock of A model they had. That being said, the owner of the bike was very happy with it and sold the bike many years later with the kit still installed, so maybe I'm the one that did not understand.
Guy

Re: Magazine Articles

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:42 pm
by David Lahey
Alastair the later model TY250s (BCDE) have threaded steel plugs in the ends of those frame tubes. I'm thinking that the trail kit might have been released after the A model TY250
After reading what Guy thought of the footpeg location I will be very interested to hear what you think of yours

Re: Magazine Articles

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:22 pm
by tat ty
Ah Guy ... don't put me on the back foot so soon.

Yes ... I have a magazine article from "Cycle World" (assume US), May 1975, indicating that the kit was introduced in an attempt to reduce the large surplus of unsold TY250s existing at the time.

As David points out, post A model TY250s have a threaded component incorporated in to the lower frame cross member. The Cycle World article features an A model and May 1975 must surely have been after the introduction of the B model. So there must have been an abundance of unsold A models at the time.

Personally, it has always puzzled me why you would move pegs forward.

As it is, 90% of the time I use my TY as a trail bike and love his plush comfy seat, so perhaps this kit will make a great thing even greater. It should be a 1/2 hour change over when set up, so no big downside.

I'll pick myself off the floor, put the front foot forward and let you blokes know.

Alastair

Re: Magazine Articles

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:56 pm
by Guy53
Alastair, if you can change back the pegs to the original position, your in business. Also at that time we did not play around as much as today with idea, to ride '' sitting '' maybe moving the pegs a little forward would have made the bike more confortable. Today we ride with the handlebars ( for me ) about 3 1/2 inch also forward, that would also change the feeling on the bike. Please keep us inform, and tell us how you setup the rest of the TY.
Guy

Re: Magazine Articles

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 2:10 pm
by EvH
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