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GREEN TRANSITION

Postby Greg Harding » Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:39 pm

Hi Everyone,

While I was napping, there has been some very interesting posts, thank you for sharing where you are up to with your projects as I really enjoy hearing what is going on and especially looking at the photos!

For some time now, I have been riding the :italjet: Piuma and there has been some ups and downs but overall it is good to iron out some problems and adjust it to suit me.

With all this talk about :kawasaki , I have decided to bring Franken KT out into the daylight for a couple of rides.

David must have installed the new Norton 850 Comando software as he seemed to know about my clutch cable routing?
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Don, look up :Honda: XL 175 as I think that is what your mystery wheel is off?

Phil, I think Kurt is on the money with his 3rd attempt, Kermit has been started a lot with a Kickstart shaft that looks like yours using the decompressor:
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Here is my spare parts motor and it looks pretty much the same:
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You can read more about it on page 100:
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David Lahey wrote:
chippy wrote:Hi everyone,
David, one of the :kawasaki KT fork caps would be great please and thank you again for the :yamaha TY/DT clutch springs. I’ll just have to glue up the holes on the :kawasaki KT fork caps as I don’t like the air sound they make.

Here is the butchered one. I wish some people would leave things alone if they don’t have the correct tool..



Chippy


That's all well and good Chippy but what are you offering as a trade? Greg has been doing a great job training me and I'm still very happy about the trading bits thing Greg and I did late last year

Chippy, might I suggest that cross David's palm with Silver?
Newspaper Pfffffffft !


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Re: GREEN TRANSITION

Postby David Lahey » Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:01 pm

Greg Harding wrote:
chippy wrote:Hi everyone,
David, one of the :kawasaki KT fork caps would be great please and thank you again for the :yamaha TY/DT clutch springs. I’ll just have to glue up the holes on the :kawasaki KT fork caps as I don’t like the air sound they make.

Here is the butchered one. I wish some people would leave things alone if they don’t have the correct tool..
Chippy


That's all well and good Chippy but what are you offering as a trade? Greg has been doing a great job training me and I'm still very happy about the trading bits thing Greg and I did late last year

Chippy, might I suggest that cross David's palm with Silver?
Newspaper Pfffffffft ! [/quote]


Yes you are correct Greg I'm on the lookout for that so I can display things in style


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Re: Basket Cases

Postby Phil 850 » Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:18 pm

Greg
Thanks for the info. What type of chainsaw was the decompressor off.
It should certainly improve the life of the kickstart shaft (and my right leg)

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Re: Basket Cases

Postby outforfun » Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:51 pm

I notice that a few people are having trouble with kick start shafts twisting. Forgive me if you are already doing it, but I think employing the big bore 4 stroke starting procedure may help...

Wind the engine slowly over to find TDC on compression stroke. Ease the piston a bees whatsit (technical term) past TDC and then give her a full kick.

This gives you momentum in the kick stroke and engine stroke before the piston reaches TDC compression again. All my 4 strokes 250cc+ and 2 strokes 250cc + like to start this way. It may help you with starting your bikes too. Plus it should remove the strain on the hardware inside your engines and thus eleviate the pain and frustration associated with a full engine strip and rebuild to replace said broken kickstart shaft.



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Re: Basket Cases

Postby Phil 850 » Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:38 pm

Thanks for the suggestions outforfun, but I have never bent a kickstart shaft but need to repair what someone else has managed to damage.
Unfortunately some people have very little mechanical sympathy :cry:

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Re: Basket Cases

Postby David Lahey » Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:27 pm

Greg Harding you certainly have been napping if you think that clutch cable on your :kawasaki has sensible routing :shock:
Today Chippy had me thinking that a silver tray would be something that might be better than newspaper (pffft!) for taking photos of parts upon. No idea where Chippy got that concept from, but tonight I noticed a silver tray in the dining room display cupboard and decided to try it out. When up close I noticed some old writing on it that reminded me of something that happened when I was young and thought I had better check with Wendy before I take the tray up to the workshop for good 8)
Especially for Greg and Chippy and any other :kawasaki people, the bits on display are the rack and pinion for the clutch from my KT :kawasaki . I'm fairly happy with the design and manufacture of the bits that make up the clutch on a KT so I'm still keen to have a clutch pull challenge, especially the Greg Harding KX :kawasaki clutch cover vs KT :kawasaki clutch cover.
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TY250 swingarm refurb

Postby David Lahey » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:33 pm

While waiting for the parts to arrive from the UK to replace the failed needle roller swingarm pivot setup with the normal plastic bushes in a :yamaha TY250D swingarm, I thought I'd give the swingarm a birthday.
The stand mount looked original but close to breaking:

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I also added a tab for mounting a sprocket guard:

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TY250 swingarm refurb

Postby David Lahey » Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:55 pm

All ready for the new bushes to go in.

I wonder if the new stand mount will last as long as the :yamaha mount did (42 years).

They do fairly commonly fail though and usually it is much earlier in the life of a TY250. I remember a teenage friend of small stature had a TY250A in about 1976 and the only way he could start it was to stand up on the pegs with the stand down, which must have given the stand mount a hammering. The other notable thing about that friend is that he rode it wearing thongs and I'm pretty sure it would have been in bare feet if the TY250 had been less wicked for a small, light person to kickstart. On the A model, the stand mount is on the frame and tends to stick out a bit, catching on things during crashes and even in sections so they used to break off even sooner than the stands on the later models.
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TY175 kickstart option

Postby David Lahey » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:59 am

There is a very interesting looking TY175-based bike advertised for sale on facebook. Amongst other things it has an interesting custom made frame, but the thing that really caught my eye was the kickstart. I hadn't thought of doing it this way
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Re: Basket Cases

Postby Twinshock200 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 5:31 pm

I have added a couple more pics, slow progress is being made if anyone is interested, forks and wheels in place


Here's the start of my new bike, from a total basket case to what I hope will be a nice finished product in a few weeks time, the only original items on it will be the engine (with mods) and the frame ,,,,, which are matching numbers.
I'm not able to ride at the moment due to Carpal Tunnel surgery a couple of weeks ago so its back into the shed and get on with the new project.
I was lucky with my side stand its still good, 45 years later.
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When you add up the cost of doing a good restoration of something like a TY175 its quite staggering how much it could cost.
$1000 The original donor bike, estimated
$800 Motor & G/box resto
$600 WES exhaust system
$600 Frame & mudguards
$900 Wheels, spokes and tyres
$400 Forks and rear shockies
$200 Cables, levers and bars

Total $4,500
Of course you might be lucky and get away with less but it would be quite easy to spend lots more, it all depends on how much you can do yourself.
After all that though nothing can beat the pleasure of starting the little devil up and fearfully dropping it into bottom gear for the first time with a clear space ahead of you :(



I have added a couple more pics, slow progress is being made if anyone is interested, forks and wheels in place
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