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Re: Basket Cases

Postby tat ty » Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:17 am

Yes Greg ... that is the bash plate. Mine has no rust at all, which astounds me as it is a complete moisture trap. Your photo shows that the mounting points have survived also.

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Re: Basket Cases

Postby outforfun » Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:20 pm

Gee wizz Greg, at the rate you're going there won't be too many TY's left in the wilds of Aussie barns before long.

You seem to have some kind of TY magnetic attraction happening.



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Re: Basket Cases

Postby Jools » Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:29 pm

Keep yer eyes off MY barn Greg!



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Postby Greg Harding » Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:15 am

Hi Everyone,
Jools wrote:Keep yer eyes off MY barn Greg!

Jools, Is this YOUR barn?
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Have you checked YOUR barn lately?
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Not sure who was at the helm, it might have been Johnny Jett?

Can someone explain why it is not BARNTIMBER BUILDERS or to AMERICANIZE it BARNLUMBER BUILDERS .......?

As Always, if Anyone is interested is Anything in Any of my photos, message me and express interest. Most of my swaps don't rate a mention, I will however share this one as I think it is interesting. So I started with a fairly original locked solid :yamaha AG 100:
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Swapped it for some random Trials parts and a wheel of unknown origin:
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Then the best bits were thrown in:
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Re: Basket Cases

Postby David Lahey » Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:42 am

Excellent trading Greg. Seeing that intact AG100 brings back fond memories.
So its a Bultaco front wheel that someone has gone to the trouble of balancing. Bultaco started using unplated steel spokes in 1977/78. The hub looks like 1974 to 1978 Bultaco Alpina or Frontera. The rim has a yellow Akront sticker so I'm thinking 1977 or 1978 Alpina.
Bit of a mystery with the tyre clamp. Tyre gone but the nut on the tyre clamp looks to be done up tight which is a bit weird.
The photo is of a 1975 Alpina front wheel which is the same as a 77/78 Alpina front wheel except the 1975 came with stainless spokes
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Re: Basket Cases

Postby Greg Harding » Tue Dec 17, 2019 7:18 am

Hi Everyone,
David Lahey wrote:Excellent trading Greg. Seeing that intact AG100 brings back fond memories.
So its a Bultaco front wheel that someone has gone to the trouble of balancing. Bultaco started using unplated steel spokes in 1977/78. The hub looks like 1974 to 1978 Bultaco Alpina or Frontera. The rim has a yellow Akront sticker so I'm thinking 1977 or 1978 Alpina.

Aha, thank you David, so I went back for a closer look and it has feint texta label that looks like a wreckers writing stating Sherpa! That explains why there is no cast iron liner in the hub and it is the same as my :Bultaco: M198. So now I am curious as to how they chrome the aluminum hub, is it the same process as Nikasil liners in cylinders?

outforfun wrote:Gee wizz Greg, at the rate you're going there won't be too many TY's left in the wilds of Aussie barns before long.

You seem to have some kind of TY magnetic attraction happening.


Well Don, there is another barn devoid of :yamaha TYs now, the magnetic attraction only seems to work well on metal tanks, not that I want to be critical while it is working! This is the first time I have bought a triple tanker!
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Just to make it more interesting, as usual there is a totally unrelated part that will not rust in the mix, can anyone see it?
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There are other bonuses as the cylinder has been bored to suit the piston kit etcetera that came with the bike:
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The parts in small bags at top left are for rebuilding gear selector assembly, all good to have.


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Re: Basket Cases

Postby tat ty » Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:05 pm

Hey Greg. Is that a sneaky electrical batten holder nestled up next to the carb.

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Re: Basket Cases

Postby David Lahey » Tue Dec 17, 2019 7:27 pm

[quote="Greg Harding"]
So now I am curious as to how they chrome the aluminum hub, is it the same process as Nikasil liners in cylinders?

The process that :Bultaco: used to chrome plate the aluminium brake drums is widely known as the "not quite good enough" process, but gave the Pursang the lightest MX wheels in the mid 1970s scene. The Pursang and Sherpa T shared the small front hub design while the Frontera and Alpina had a bigger diameter (also chrome plated brake surface) front hub that incorporated a speedo drive in the backing plate. That's why Sherpa Ts have the speedo drive on the rear wheel. It's a fairly popular mod to fit Alpina/Frontera front hubs to Sherpa Ts to get stronger braking at the expense of a bit of extra weight.

Before "Nikasil" and "Electrofusion" cylinder bore coatings became the norm in the 1980s, the really high-tech two strokes ( :yamaha YZs and TZs) had chrome coated bores, which led to a few mishaps when people accidentally fitted their chrome bore engine with the more commonly available chrome-plated piston rings which were intended for cast iron bores.


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Re: Basket Cases

Postby Greg Harding » Tue Dec 17, 2019 9:40 pm

Hi Everyone,
David Lahey wrote:
Greg Harding wrote:So now I am curious as to how they chrome the aluminum hub, is it the same process as Nikasil liners in cylinders?


Before "Nikasil" and "Electrofusion" cylinder bore coatings became the norm in the 1980s, the really high-tech two strokes ( :yamaha YZs and TZs) had chrome coated bores, which led to a few mishaps when people accidentally fitted their chrome bore engine with the more commonly available chrome-plated piston rings which were intended for cast iron bores.

Soooooo, are you saying David that :Bultaco: should have used chrome plated brake shoes?
tat ty wrote:Hey Greg. Is that a sneaky electrical batten holder nestled up next to the carb.

Alastair.

Alastair, is this what you mean?
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Foreign to a :yamaha ? Tick!
Does not rust! Tick!
What I am talking about? No!
Is this where you mean?
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If so, that is the ignition :
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Re: Basket Cases

Postby David Lahey » Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:29 pm

Well there's an odd-looking sort-of L shaped thing in a plastic bag resting on the front wheel spokes in the middle photo that I don't recognise as being from a TY Yamaha, but I cant tell what it is. It does look as if it could be made of stainless steel and there is vanishingly little stainless steel in a standard TY, maybe none even.
If my Mother-in-law was guessing, she would probably say it's a whatnot for a goose's bridle.


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