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Re: Basket Cases

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 8:54 am
by Jools
Look at that! - Kurt's a future legend... His workshop's in the kitchen and there's a few pretty good sections in his back garden!
See P-P-P-previous page for P-P-P-pics of K-K-K-Kurts K-K-K-krazy K-K-K-kitchen! :lol:
(Sorry, it's a Fish Called Wanda F-F-F-fixation!)
Don't call me stoopid!

Re: Basket Cases

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:11 pm
by Rod
Kurt, that blue looks pretty good particularly in that workshop/kitchen pic.
Is that a TY mono muffler?

Re: Basket Cases

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 8:47 pm
by Kurt
Yes on the money, an upside down TY Mono muffler.

Significantly lighter and it allows the engine to rev out.
The stock muffler really chokes the engine at high revs, only problem is it sounds a bit like a TY with the muffler.

Re: Final Drive Ratios

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:56 pm
by Greg Harding
Hi Everyone,
brent j wrote:Hi Greg,
I've got sprockets here in the same ratio as you've mentioned but they are 428. When I fit the motor I'll check chain clearance etc and probably use what I've got for now. I prefer 520 as it gives much more clearance around the swingarm pivot area. I may add a roller below the swingarm pivot and use a chain guide onto the rear sprocket rather than a spring loaded tensioner. I've done this on all my other project bikes (TT500's, PE250B) and never had a problem.
When I measured everything up I found I had the same rear axle to swingarm pivot height as your bike and the shock length will need to be the same ~365-360.

Brent, curiosity got the better of me, are you going to run 13T and 64T 428 sprockets?
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Or do you have a way of making 12T working on the rather large :suzuki output shaft and tab washer?
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After thinking about it for a while, it stands to reason that IF the ratio is the same in both 428 and 520 THEN the sprocket diameters will change the same amount. Therefore the swingarm pivot clearance will be the same.
Kurt wrote:Blue Frame, Baby's got a Blue frame

Greg - If we add 3Kg of Swingarm to the 7.7Kg of Frame we get 10.7Kg total bare frame weight.

Thank you Kurt, she sure is Beautiful! Do you have any photos of the other side?
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JC1 wrote:Just wondering though if there's a reason you're not taking the opportunity to reduce the wheelbase somewhat given how long the RL is (53.5"/1345mm) compared to all other twinshocks. Just curious. John, I will reply inside your quote in BLUE so I don't fry my brain. The SQUEAMISH is slightly shorter than standard, things got shuffled and I liked the look of the :Honda: swingarm. Short wheelbase bikes generally have short swingarms which generally means they are not so good on the long climbs we sometimes get in C grade. So it is a tradeoff between tight turning and climbing.

I do like the RLs even with all their faults. I enjoyed sampling Greg's Squeamish alongside a standard RL at his place a couple of years ago and it made the standard one feel very ordinary by comparison, to put it mildly.The standard RL (Town Bike) you are refering to has the lower shock mounts moved forward increasing rear wheel travel and steepening the steering so I will add a photo at the bottom:

But I could never understand why Suzuki manufactured the RL with that obvious design flaw in the gussets on the rear uprights; Word on the street is :suzuki ignored Gordon Farley and were fairly arogant!
And Greg, I'm intrigued by what Squeamish 2 might be. How diff to #1 ??

John, it is all in my head and please don't ask me to translate as I am not too sure about how it works, the head that is!

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Just my thoughts, I think Kurt has a thing for Cougars!

Re: Basket Cases

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 7:22 am
by whitehillbilly
Did you find that nail in your front tyre Greg ?

Re: Basket Cases

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 11:12 am
by JC1
Nice job on the SWM Kurt.

Here's a couple of shots of a Jay Lael modified RL from TC site

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And, for something different, a nice Greeves. Don't see many of these, even in UK
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Re: Basket Cases

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 7:22 pm
by Kurt
On the other side, everything is fine on the other side:
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And an onboard Photo so you can have a virtual ride:
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Being pointed at the Sherco Wave after 5mins on the Town bike was certainly an ambush, I don't think I've ridden a more strange feeling obstacle.
The only way to feel some sort of normal is to maintain forward movement with your head, hence the close inspection of the front tyre.

Re: Basket Cases

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 7:57 pm
by Jools
Ooooh I just want to MARRY that Greeves!

Re: Basket Cases

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 10:57 am
by JC1
Here's another one to drool over, perhaps even nicer.
Subtle differences

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Re: Basket Cases

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 8:58 am
by JC1
Now before someone screams "Enough Greeves" (point taken)...
But have to admit, this one's nice looking too, tho I never thought much of them back in the day
The seat always looked very strange, like an afterthought on this model
For me the Greeves always look better with telescopics, but if you have to have the 'earls type', the earlier style look better
(Never did like the look of the later Anglians with the 'banana forks')

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