Aussie Titles / Women's Title feedback
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:33 pm
WOW! These two threads have sure put up some interesting points, and I would like to add to it, but hopefully only in a constructive and positive way. So here I go.
OBSERVERS
From what I can gather most of you from the eastern seaboard come from Clubs that are mostly, or only, trials orientated, meaning that most of your members ride? Here in SA we really only have one Club like that, the AJS MTC, which means that when a Club like Keyneton run an Aussie Titles they can rely on their 120+ members who don't ride moto trials for support in running the event and observing.
In the lead up to last years Titles the KMCC ran 2 observers schools for all the enduro, mx and reliability trials riders in the Club, to teach them the art of observing. The KMCC also had many friends from other Club's that were prepared to give a day, or 2 as well.
What this means is that even though they don't ride moto trials the observers are motorcyclists with a good idea of what moto trials are, which resulted in few disagreements between riders and observers last year.
** An option for 2009 may be to approach other 'non trials' Clubs in the area to see if their members would like to help. Offer them free entry, lunch and drinks and the 'best seat in the house' and you may be surprised how many you get.
AUSSIE TITLES CLASSES
I, personally, think the classes that are now being run are more than enough, and there is a class for every one to ride in, if they want to ride an Aussie Title meeting that badly!
Most other facets no longer run 'support' classes at Aussie Title rounds, or meetings. A reason for this I would suggest would be a lack of time and although this wouldn't be relevent in trials due to everyone out on course together it may slow the event down by increasing waiting time to enter sections. With 146 entries in 2007 and 139 this year spread over 30 sections each day, ques at sections could increase with the introduction of support classes.
If a rider competeing for an Aussie Title was slowed by a support class rider and didn't finish in time, he would receive penalties that could cost him a Title. Yes, there are ways and means to ensure this wouldn't happen, but it still could.
One post stated that riders between the ages of 21 and 35 weren't being catered for. Why can't riders between the ages of 21 and 35 compete? There are three (3) classes available to riders between these ages. Post Classic, Classic and Sidecars! Grab an old Twinshock out of your mates shed and have a ride. 2 KMCC members did that last year on old TY's, had a ball and ended up rejoicing under the names of 'Crash & Bash'!
If you want to ride the Titles that badly - the bottom line is you can!
WOMENS TITLE
One system that has been used before and may be considered for 2009 is this;
The Trials Commission grade all the girls riding Australia wide into 3 classes, (for example) Expert, Clubman and Novice. (The Sherco Women's Cup could also be used for this)
At the Aussie Titles the Experts ride Yellow splits, Clubman Blue splits and Novice White (junior) splits.
If there are 4 girls riding Yellow they fight over positions 1st through 4th, 6 girls ride Blue and fight over 5th through 10th and the Novice riders fill the remaining positions.
It means that riders place in the Titles in the order of difficulty they ride, rewarding the best riders, which is what an Aussie Titles should do.
This may encourage more girls to have a ride at the Titles, because by the sound of it there are some who would like to ride but are a bit put off by the sections.
Hope this helps those who are running the Titles in 2009
Andrew
OBSERVERS
From what I can gather most of you from the eastern seaboard come from Clubs that are mostly, or only, trials orientated, meaning that most of your members ride? Here in SA we really only have one Club like that, the AJS MTC, which means that when a Club like Keyneton run an Aussie Titles they can rely on their 120+ members who don't ride moto trials for support in running the event and observing.
In the lead up to last years Titles the KMCC ran 2 observers schools for all the enduro, mx and reliability trials riders in the Club, to teach them the art of observing. The KMCC also had many friends from other Club's that were prepared to give a day, or 2 as well.
What this means is that even though they don't ride moto trials the observers are motorcyclists with a good idea of what moto trials are, which resulted in few disagreements between riders and observers last year.
** An option for 2009 may be to approach other 'non trials' Clubs in the area to see if their members would like to help. Offer them free entry, lunch and drinks and the 'best seat in the house' and you may be surprised how many you get.
AUSSIE TITLES CLASSES
I, personally, think the classes that are now being run are more than enough, and there is a class for every one to ride in, if they want to ride an Aussie Title meeting that badly!
Most other facets no longer run 'support' classes at Aussie Title rounds, or meetings. A reason for this I would suggest would be a lack of time and although this wouldn't be relevent in trials due to everyone out on course together it may slow the event down by increasing waiting time to enter sections. With 146 entries in 2007 and 139 this year spread over 30 sections each day, ques at sections could increase with the introduction of support classes.
If a rider competeing for an Aussie Title was slowed by a support class rider and didn't finish in time, he would receive penalties that could cost him a Title. Yes, there are ways and means to ensure this wouldn't happen, but it still could.
One post stated that riders between the ages of 21 and 35 weren't being catered for. Why can't riders between the ages of 21 and 35 compete? There are three (3) classes available to riders between these ages. Post Classic, Classic and Sidecars! Grab an old Twinshock out of your mates shed and have a ride. 2 KMCC members did that last year on old TY's, had a ball and ended up rejoicing under the names of 'Crash & Bash'!
If you want to ride the Titles that badly - the bottom line is you can!
WOMENS TITLE
One system that has been used before and may be considered for 2009 is this;
The Trials Commission grade all the girls riding Australia wide into 3 classes, (for example) Expert, Clubman and Novice. (The Sherco Women's Cup could also be used for this)
At the Aussie Titles the Experts ride Yellow splits, Clubman Blue splits and Novice White (junior) splits.
If there are 4 girls riding Yellow they fight over positions 1st through 4th, 6 girls ride Blue and fight over 5th through 10th and the Novice riders fill the remaining positions.
It means that riders place in the Titles in the order of difficulty they ride, rewarding the best riders, which is what an Aussie Titles should do.
This may encourage more girls to have a ride at the Titles, because by the sound of it there are some who would like to ride but are a bit put off by the sections.
Hope this helps those who are running the Titles in 2009
Andrew